Thursday, April 26
Steak & PETA...
I’m sitting in a workshop led by Vince Antonucci from Forefront Church in Virginia Beach, VA. He describes what they have done Forefront with this metaphor… “What we’ve done is start a steak restaurant for PETA activists…” (He says that’s what we are doing in trying to create communities for people who have no desire to know and understand God.)
My question for you is simple…How do you do that?
How would you go about starting a restaurant that serves animal meat to someone who is a member of the a group concerned with the ethical treatment of animals? Literally, how would you do it?
Mark Nelson at 10:23 AM 9comments
9 Comments
- at 1:28 PM Abigail said...
i think i'm a little confused.
my question is not how but why?
because i'm sure that there is someone out there creative enough to sell it...but why?- at 4:35 PM The Adkins Family said...
It's people! Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!!!!
sorry. It was that or:
I don't understand the question.- at 10:18 AM said...
Doesn't Don Miller mention this in "Blue Like Jazz" when he talks about his experience at Reed College? Kind of similar, I think.
I guess the assumption is that if Christians were more like Christ then the world wouldn't mind to buy what we're selling. Didn't Ghandi say he was ok with Jesus but that it was his followers he didn't like?
So, maybe it's not about whether you're serving animal meat but about WHO is serving animal meat and HOW you serve it?- at 12:08 PM The Anonymous Human said...
I think Jeph is really onto something. If there was a way by looking at the lives of people who ate meat and seeing the benefit of it in their lives (the contentment of how a steak feels in your belly, the way we appreciate the flavor of meat and wine mixed together...I'm making stuff up, but hopefully you get my point). If those things were true and meat eaters lived that out, more PETA supporters would notice and at least be forced with a choice.
It's when we are living lives glorifying him that people will take notice. It's when our lives are content resting in him, not because he blesses us (which he may or may not do), not because it's safe and healthy (which it may or may not be) but because we will be most satisfied bringing his glory to this earth.
Somebody ought to write a song about that...- at 1:34 PM said...
Selling meat to PETA members?
Part of the message is that since all animals die eventually, why not die for some good cause? (Life is hard whether you live for yourself or for Christ, so live for Christ.)
For the servers, don't eat so much meat yourself that you are constipated, have high cholesterol and your sweat smells like death. (Bear some fruit! We should strive for righteousness, not self-righteousness.)
Focus on the benefits of a good protein source, not the extravagance of being high on the food chain. (Emphasize the life-changing power of the Holy Spirit, not "cheap grace.")
On the production side-- keep your product free of e-coli. Take care in all preparation. Poisonings and recalls are bad for business!(Keep known toxins out of the environment!)
Just a few thoughts. I think I'll go have a salad. --emma (friend of nic, friend of dustin, friend of bill, sorry I don't know Kevin Bacon.)- at 10:28 AM Dustin said...
"for people who have no desire to know and understand God."
i don't think that is true. I think people (most people) have a large desire to know and understand God but either dont' think it's possible, don't know which "god" or want to know God but do not want the "religion" that goes along with it.
But I think this Peta example couldn't be further from the truth of what church planting is.- at 2:28 PM The Anonymous Human said...
I don't know Dustin. I'm not conviced "most" people have a desire to know God. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I know the seven or so guys that I work closely with on a daily basis don't have that desire. Mostly because their lives are pretty alright without him. They have nice houses, drive nice cars, make some good money. Partly too might be that they think they already "know" God, but they are only fooling themselves. It could just be my experience, but "most" people in my life don't have a desire for God. At least not a personal desire.
- at 8:46 AM Mark Nelson said...
Wow, good thoughts...I'm not sure I understand them all, but I like the discussion...
the weird thing about the question I posted is that, I'm not sure exactly what it means either...
I think Forefront is simply trying to get people to give something a chance that they have been passionately opposed to...
I think it's a hard thing to do, especially if you're trying to stay away from 'selling the Gospel', which we are...- at 11:49 AM Unknown said...
I think you have to flip their lid.
Change the paradigm. Which makes it tough, because it's tough to be different and remarkable all the time.

